Response from KBM: The rasa of Srila Prabhupada

KBM har come with a new statement (local version since the other one is just for friends and friends friend) and a second statement where points are even more clarified based upon the public statement of Gurudeva’s sanga. KBM states that Srila Prabhupada is not a manjari and lists the evidence to this. Whenever KBM comes out with a statement, there’s always quotes like these that gets circulated:

[Srila Narayana Maharaja:] “Does any disciple have the right to correct his guru’s explanations, words, writings or anything about him? No.
If you don’t understand something, you can ask him in this way: “If I am qualified to understand, kindly explain this.”
If any disciple thinks, “I am superior and I know better than my Gurudeva,” he is actually not a disciple, but rather a demon. Before accepting a Guru one can consider whether or not he is qualified, but after accepting initiation, one should obey.
One has no right to change any of his Guru’s words.
If he changes them, where is anugatya, the taking of guidance?”

This is the usual absolute view of Gurudeva’s words, while KBM has a “time, place and circumstance” view and calls Gurudeva’s words a preaching tactic.

I can to a certain degree understand the preaching tactic argument, but I find it difficult to believe since Gurudeva never wavered in his convictions. If I entertain the notion that SP is a sakha then I’m more inclined to think that since Gurudeva is a manjari, he saw Srila Prabhupada according to his own mood. But this is just speculation on my part and I find it unlikely because of the length of time Gurudeva preached it.

So I’m wondering, have this kind of preaching tactic happened before by a pure devotee where the devotee has never wavered in his opinion? I seem to remember there was a reference to this somewhere.

Update

I found this about preaching tactics where multiple examples are given: https://www.facebook.com/notes/1020186961328165/

BV Damodar Maharaja has an extensive note collection about this whole issue, and I found some notes there I wasn’t aware of. Furthermore, you can follow BV Damodar Mahajra and see public messages/notes.

5 thoughts on “Response from KBM: The rasa of Srila Prabhupada

  1. The main example is Jiva Goswami, never wavering about parakiya not existing in the spiritual world.

  2. Here is your Gurudeva’s comment on that:

    “Whatever is spoken by pure Vaisnavas is true and utterly free from any bias or party spirit, but there is a mystery surrounding their apparent verbal disagreements. Those whose intelligence is materalistic and lacks the spirit of devotion cannot fathom the deep secrets of the loving controversies between pure Vaisnavas, and thus they wrongly conceive of such great personalities as philosophical adversaries”…”Different visions of the variegated pastimes in Goloka are realized according to one’s level of qualification. Thus, it is difficult for one to establish a fixed conclusion to determine which aspects of those varieties of visions are illusory and which are pure. Therefore, there is no need to argue and counter argue about this matter, because it will NOT elevate one’s qualification. The truth of Goloka is filled with inconceivable bhava, and any attempt to investigate this inconceivable reality by the mind would prove as unproductive as threshing empty husks. Hence, one should disregard the method of empirical knowledge, and strive for realization through the practice of unalloyed devotion.”

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